Originally posted by /u/StoriesAreLife

Alas, in my foolishness I didn’t feel like doing every single one individually! Now I have Anarchy, Energy, Atheism, 1000 years and Black Sky active, and here’s my problem: I’m not sure it’s actually possible for me to get to space. An orbital launch costs 165K oil, 1.1M science, and the kicker, 55K catpower. I’m slowly raising the caps of all three, but my catpower limit is only 19.5K with 262 kittens and counting. 28 huts, 127 log houses, 79 mansions; huts and log houses are maxed until I build enough storage for the next couple. I think I need another 400-500 kittens to reach 55K. I’ve unlocked everything in science and the workshop that doesn’t require unobtainium or relics. Am I as screwed as I think I am? XD

How can I best salvage something from this ill-advised run?

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StoriesAreLife

550 still feels like a lot of paragon to me, which probably tells you what stage of the game I’m in! :)

Within a day of my no-challenge reset, I discovered that an orbital launch sans Black Sky only requires 5000 catpower - I assume the change was to compensate for lack of star charts. I’m still only up to 36K catpower with four Templar upgrades and a bunch of space stations, so I’ve concluded that Black Sky and Atheism are not compatible challenges at my current point in the game. I probably can’t complete Black Sky at all just yet.

I think for my next run I will repeat Winter Has Come, maybe pair it with Anarchy, and see how that goes.

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Ormusn2o

Would probably be faster to just reset and try 1-2 challenges.

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5arawr

I had to abandon a run like this awhile ago. I think I had <300 paragon. Without enough paragon it became clear that getting the last few thousand cat power I needed was going to take forever. Now I’m trying 7 challenges again with much more paragon (~3k + 1.5k burned) & event horizons, and it’s going really well. (Same challenges as yours + winter is coming & pacifism)

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XenosHg

oh yeah, black sky with atheism and low paragon and no temples, that’s a hard combination.

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StoriesAreLife

I might be able to build up the storage eventually, but even with 546 paragon it’ll take a reeeeeeeally long time. (I’ve already been at it for a couple of days.) 1000 years might be doable, but it’ll be slow to build up enough time crystals; I think I’m going to reset and cut my losses. I’ve got just enough kittens now to buy Renaissance next run. After I get to space. :D

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tryce355

That’s a big problem, yes…

Can’t finish Anarchy, because Antimatter needed for AI Core. Can’t finish Energy. Probably can’t finish Atheism because of needing unobtanium as well. And Black Sky needs space just like all the others. All this assumes you don’t have the paragon/storage to get the 500 more kittens worth of houses you need.

Looks like maybe 1000 years might be doable?

Kinda of surprising to look at this and see just how much needs Space access.

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KC_Redditor

Oh. Welp.

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StoriesAreLife

Not with Atheism running, I don’t think. :(

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KC_Redditor

Don’t forget temples can give you cat power.

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